And Now, And Here-第69章

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you　saved　yourself；　you　saved　yourself　by　a　hairs　breadth。

when　the　dream　is　broken　anyway；　then　whats　the　point　in　interpreting　it？　the　interpretation　is　valid　only　as　long　as　the　dream　is　happening。

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so　all　my　explanations　are　explanations　of　dreams；　and　the　explanations　of　a　dream　can　never　be　true。

do　you　follow　what　i　am　saying？　how　can　an　explanation　of　a　dream　have　any　real　meaning　whatsoever　when　the　dream　itself　is　never　true？　an　explanation　of　a　dream；　however；　can　be　helpful　in　putting　an　end　to　the　dream　……　and　should　that　ever　happen；　you　will　wake　up。

and　the　day　you　wake　up；　you　wont　say　the　dream　was　true；　you　wont　say　the　explanation　was　right；　you　will　say　it　was　just　a　play　which　ended。

and　you　will　say　there　were　two　sides　to　the　game：　one　of　indulging　in　the　dream；　the　other　of　destroying　it。

indulgence　in　the　dream　is　samsara；　explanations　that　break　the　dream　make　up　sannyas　……　although；　basically；　both　are　happenings　of　the　dream　state。

samsara　signifies　indulgence　in　the　dream；　while　sannyas　is　an　effort　to　destroy　the　dream　……　but　both　happenings　are　of　the　dream。

when　the　dream　is　over；　there　will　be　neither　samsara　nor　sannyas。

then　whatsoever　will　be；　will　be　the　truth。

question　2　

is　sadhana　a　natural　growth；　or　is　it　a　jump　outside　the　evolutionary　process　of　nature？　if　sadhana　is　not　a　jump　and　transcendence　of　the　natural　evolution；　then　is　it　possible　that　the　entire　human　race　can　reach　spiritual　heights　all　by　itself？　if　it　is　true　that　the　course　of　evolution　continues　to　move　ahead；　why　were　the　greatest　spiritual　cultures　of　the　past　left　behind　in　the　whole　evolutionary　process？　

there　are　many　things　that　need　to　be　taken　into　account。

the　first　thing。

as　soon　as　we　see　man　separate　from　the　universe；　questions　such　as　these　begin　to　e　up。

for　example；　if　we　heat　water　to　a　hundred　degrees；　on　the　hundredth　degree　the　water　takes　a　jump　and　turns　into　vapor。

the　heating　of　water；　as　well　as　the　water　turning　into　vapor　by　taking　a　jump；　are　natural　phenomena。

this　is　not　an　unnatural　event。

had　there　not　been　a　natural　law　for　the　water　to　take　a　leap　and　turn　into　vapor；　by　itself　the　water　hadnt　the　means　to　bee　vapor。

if　nature　had　not　been　equipped　to　make　the　water　heat　up　to　a　hundred　degrees；　the　water　itself　did　not　have　the　capacity　to　heat　up　to　a　hundred　degrees。

however；　if　water　has　consciousness　it　can　either　save　itself　from　heating　or　it　can　give　itself　up　to　the　fire　……　and　in　either　case　it　would　be　a　natural　phenomenon。

what　i　mean　to　say　is；　nothing　unnatural　can　ever　happen　in　this　universe。

in　fact；　that　which　can　never　happen　is　the　unnatural。

only　what　is　natural　takes　place　in　this　universe。

there　is　no　way　for　anything　unnatural　to　happen；　whatsoever　happens　is　natural。

if　man　is　evolving　spiritually；　it　is　because　of　his　natural　potential。

if　he　is　jumping　out；　then　that　too　is　his　natural　potential。

his　choice　whether　to　jump　or　not　to　jump　is　a　natural　possibility　too。

this　means　there　are　multi…potentialities　in　nature。

actually；　our　mistake　is　that　we　use　the　word　nature　in　the　sense　of　a　single　potentiality。

nature　is　a　cumulation　of　infinite　possibilities。

within　these　possibilities　the　heating　of　water　to　a　hundred　degrees　is　a　natural　happening；　and　the　freezing　of　water　at　zero　is　also　a　natural　happening。

a　natural　phenomenon　such　as　the　freezing　of　water　at　zero　does　not　negate　the　natural　phenomenon　of　water　turning　into　vapor　at　a　hundred　degrees。

it　is　not　that　one　event　is　natural　while　the　other　is　not　……　both　are　natural。

darkness　is　natural　and　so　is　light。

falling　down　is　natural　and　so　is　rising　up。

there　are　infinite　possibilities　in　nature。

we　are　always　standing　on　the　crossroads　from　where　an　infinite　number　of　paths　emerge。

and　the　interesting　thing　is　that　whatsoever　we　choose；　the　capability　to　choose　will　itself　be　a　gift　from　nature。

even　if　we　were　to　choose　a　wrong　path；　nature　will　bring　us　to　the　very　end　of　it。

nature　is　very　cooperative。

if　we　choose　the　road　to　hell；　it　begins　to　clear　the　way　and　invites　us　to　proceed。

it　will　not　stop　you。

why　would　nature　stop　you　from　turning　water　into　ice；　if　you　wish　to　do　so；　and　have　you　rather　turn　it　into　vapor？　nature　will　be　happy　to　clear　your　way　if　you　wish　to　go　to　hell；　or　heaven：　whether　you　wish　to　live　or　die；　nature　will　always　be　willing　to　cooperate。

to　live　is　natural；　to　die　is　natural；　and　your　ability　to　choose　either　of　the　two　is　natural　too。

if　you　can　grasp　this　multidimensionality　of　nature；　you　will　have　no　difficulty　in　understanding　what　i　am　saying。

suffering　is　natural；　and　so　is　happiness。

to　live　like　a　blind　man　is　natural；　and　to　live　with　open　eyes　is　natural　too。

to　be　awake　is　natural；　and　to　stay　asleep　is　natural　as　well。

nature　contains　endless　possibilities。

and　the　interesting　thing　is　that　we　are　not　living　outside　of　nature；　we　are　part　of　nature。

our　choosing　is　also　due　to　the　natural　capability　we　have　within　us。

as　the　individual　bees　more　and　more　conscious；　his　ability　to　choose　bees　more　and　more　profound。

the　more　unconscious　an　individual　is；　the　less　profound　is　his　ability　to　choose。

for　example；　there　is　no　way　that　water　lying　in　the　sun　cannot　turn　into　vapor　……　it　would　be　difficult　for　it　not　to。

the　water　cant　decide　whether　to　bee　vapor　or　not。

if　it　stays　in　the　sun；　then　it　is　sure　to　bee　vapor；　and　lying　in　the　cold；　it　is　sure　to　bee　ice。

this；　the　water　will　have　to　live　through；　although　it　will　have　no　knowledge　that　it　is　living　through　it；　because　its　consciousness　is　low；　or　not　at　all；　or　dormant。

trees　in　africa　rise　hundreds　of　feet　in　search　of　the　sun。

they　grow　in　height。

trees　in　india　wont　grow　to　such　heights；　because　in　india　there　arent　forests　that　thick。

in　a　dense　forest　the　tree　has　to　grow　higher　and　higher　in　order　to　survive。

it　needs　to　overe　other　trees　in　height　so　it　can　receive　the　sunlight。

the　tree　would　die　if　it　didnt　find　the　needed　height。

it　is　a　matter　of　life　and　death　for　the　tree。

the　tree　has　to　exercise　its　choice　a　little。

in　a　dense　forest　the　trees　will　widen　less；　instead；　they　will　grow　taller；　bee　conical。

in　a　thick　forest　it　is　dangerous　for　a　tree　to　grow　wide；　that　will　cause　it　to　die。

the　branches　of　the　nearby　trees　will　get　entangled　with　each　other　and　the　trees　wont　be　able　to　reach　the　sun。

so　if　the　tree　has　to　reach　the　sun　it　cant　grow　its　branches　wide；　it　has　to　grow　tall。

this　too　is　a　trees　choice。

if　you　were　to　plant　the　same　tree　in　a　country　where　there　are　no　dense　forests；　its　height　would　be　shorter。

there　are　trees　which　actually　move　a　few　feet　every　year。

this　means　there　are　trees　which　move　their　roots　as　we　move　our　feet。

they　strengthen　the　roots　that　lie　in　the　direction　where　they　wish　to　move；　and　relax　the　roots　of　the　area　they　wish　to　abandon。

this　is　how　they　move　forward　a　little。

a　swampy　area　makes　this　movement　easier。

there　are　trees　that　are　carnivorous。

they　lure　birds；　trap　them；　and　once　the　birds　have　landed　on　them；　they　close　their　leaves。

these　trees　have　developed　quite　a　system　for　luring　birds。

they　have　leaves　the　size　of　a　plate。

the　platelike　leaves　contain　a　very　fragrant　juice；　and　the　fragrance　naturally　attracts　birds　from　far　away。

as　soon　as　the　bird　arrives　and　sits　on　the　leaf；　the　leaves　from　all　around　close　in　on　the　bird；　press　it；　and　the　tree　sucks　its　blood。

now　it　is　difficult　to　accept　that　the　tree　is　not　exercising　a　choice。

it　certainly　is；　and　it　is　making　some　plans　as　well：　it　is　on　the　lookout　for　something。

animals　make　even　greater　choices　……　they　run；　they　move　swiftly。

nevertheless；　as　pared　to　the　choices　made　by　man；　their　choices　are　very　ordinary。

man　faces　much　greater　choices　because　his　consciousness　is　much　more　evolved。

he　chooses　not　only　through　his　body；　he　chooses　through　his　mind　as　well。

he　not　only　chooses　to　travel　on　earth；　he　also　chooses　to　travel　vertically；　in　space。

that　too　is　within　his　power　to　choose。

although　this　area　has　not　been　researched　yet；　i　feel；　however；　that　in　the　near　future　science　may　discover　there　are　trees　which　have　suicidal　tendencies　……　trees　who　may　not　be　choosing　to　live；　who　may　be　wanting　to　stay　short　in　the　dense　forest　and　eventually　die。

this　is　yet　to　be　discovered。

among　human　beings　we　can　see　clearly　that　there　are　people　who　are　suicidal　……　they　dont　choose　to　live；　they　keep　looking　for　ways　of　dying。

wherever　they　see　a　thorn；　they　rush　towards　it　like　a　madman；　flowers　dont　appeal　to　them。

wherever　they　see　defeat　they　are　drawn　towards　it　as　if　hypnotized；　but　when　they　see　victory　they　look　for　scores　of　excuses。

people　find　thousands　of　arguments　against　the　possibility　of　growth；　but　where　they　are　certain　of　decay　people　keep　moving　head　on　in　that　direction。

all　choices　are　open　to　man。

the　more　conscious　man　bees；　the　more　his　choices　will　lead　him　towards　happiness；　the　more　unconscious　he　is；　the　closer　he　will　move　towards　misery